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Old 02-25-2013, 12:30 AM   #154
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I don't think a believer would agrue with that.
Many would argue that without god(s) there are no morals standards though. I read that all the time from religious people, "there is no good without God."

"Even though religious and secular ethics don’t derive their authority from the same source, we still must find a way to establish common ground between them;"

I think this would be far more difficult that appears, wouldn't believers basically have to give up their god(s) being the only source of morality? If their god(s) aren't the only source of morality, if moral truths can be discovered and not just given to you by the ultimate authority, then that implies something beyond their god(s)...
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