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Old 02-05-2013, 09:15 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by photon View Post
That may be true but that doesn't have any impact on the discussion on if something should be done, and should be evaluated not in a vacuum, but in the context of what will happen if they don't do anything (to not do so is a variation on the nirvana fallacy).

So (for example) some people suggest to buy local and/or organic food (I'm not saying that's valid or right in every circumstance, it's just an example). The additional cost of buying organic now has to be compared to the future increase in food prices (if any).

Not an easy comparison, but the universe doesn't care how easy something is.



There's tons of choices that an individual can make that helps that would make a huge difference if done in significant numbers, but I'm a pessimist that way and most people will just do what is easiest/cheapest/fastest.

So that's why I'm not necessarily against things like only having CFLs/LED lights available, or goverment standards for fuel economy (so instead of going from 200hp to 300hp in a sedan in 10 years maybe it stays at 200hp but goes from 10 to 7L/100km).

Pushing for more nuclear or retrofitting coal with NG would be a big step too.
Well if that's what it takes, then I'm already eco friendly and caring about future generations.

What I had in mind was more along the lines of carbon-tax in Australia etc., not stuff like buying local beef that doesn't need to be jet-flown from Argentina.
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