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Originally Posted by AR_Six
Obviously this is the right sentiment and the high-road is the best road to take on these things, but it's so damned frustrating dealing with people who stubbornly refuse to accept reality. Not that Polak is one of those but they are frequently encountered. You could explain to them in detail, take them through powerpoint presentations explaining exactly why they're wrong, and 24 hours later will be back to the same idiotic garbage they were spewing in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
I'm at the point where climate change discussion have reached saturation with the amount of fact based research and analysis is out there. There is no way that an educated human looking for truth could arrive to the conclusion that global warming is not a severe problem facing us right now.
If people still deny the existence or the reason to act they aren't well positioned to be argued with further. These people should be called out for what they are, moronically self interested and ultimately very dangerous not coddled further to support their straw men and irrelevant arguments that further promote stasis.
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I don't necessarily disagree, but I think there's a difference between "deniers" as a whole and an individual; I think an individual deserves the benefit of the doubt when beginning a discussion and should be given an opportunity to at least see if they're willing to engage in a meaningful discussion.. beginning with "stupid" makes that more difficult.
But I certainly agree that someone who rejects the science without good reason or refuses to engage in anything other than 'nuh uh it's not true' should be called out, but the degree and method of that calling out is still subject to the rules of the forum.
There's a difference between "lies and stupidity" and "I think you're refusing to consider the evidence, I'm not continuing this" or "You're not engaging in a discussion you're just copy/pasting propaganda, no point in continuing".
Not that I don't want heated discussions at all, but lets take a little time to get from zero to 100
