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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
How can you say that with a straight face? Saying Phaneuf hasn't done anything for them when he's their #1 defenseman and captain is simply denial. Has he taken them to the playoffs? No but I don't believe that's how you judge player for player swaps. You judge it based on contribution and Phaneuf contributes in almost 30 minutes ice time per game also Carter Ashton is the player they got for Aulie that is at least a contributor with their farm club.
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You are trying to justify your position by stating that a player they got by trading one of the players they got from us is
contributing with their farm club. Think about that.
As far as Phaneuf playing 30 minutes a night goes, so did Bouwmeester in the past. Has he been a great player in your view? What about Chris Butler playing big minutes last year?
Dion Phaneuf as Leafs captain reminds me of Todd Simpson as our captain - the guy gets the letter because there is nobody else.
Overall though, I think you are introducing a false dichotomy. I am saying that the Leafs did not fleece the Flames, not that Phaneuf is terrible and worthless and anything else you are implying. I said in the other Phaneuf thread that the dude is trending into a slightly better version of Derek Morris. Which is to say that he will be a serviceable player for a long time. But he is already a shadow of what he was early in his NHL career, and it seems less and less likely that he will ever reach the potential we held for him.