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Originally Posted by pylon

Wrong again.

As of 2011 stats, they aren't even in the top 15 for murder rate. Sort the column by murder rate, and they place 16.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._by_crime_rate

Fipside to that argument....Texas, which has some of the most liberal gun laws in the States, has a number of cities that rank near the bottom of that list.