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Originally Posted by Daradon
^^^ Well, all countries have a problem with drinking and driving. Only one (first world anyway) seems to have such a problem with guns. So maybe there IS something screwed up and guns ARE to blame?
Agreed maybe there is a bit of cheerleading, but as I said, the ongoing thread got started because we had three big events right after each other. It wasn't because someone said, 'hmmm I wonder how we can pile on the States right now.'
Lastly, there is a lot of outrage and confusion because there is so much idiocy coming from the pro gun side.
Bad examples like, movies, music, and video games are to blame. Bad suggestions like, let's have a national database of mentally ill people. General combativeness and anger and irresponsibly and uncaring talk from a side has an almost Fruedian/penile attachment to bigger badder firearms.
There IS a big problem. And guns ARE the biggest part of the problem. Yes, I agree there are other issues. But to say guns aren't part of the equation, and attitudes towards them and the 'meaning' of the second amendment aren't messed up...?
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Again, I agree with sensible gun control. I just don't see how an outright ban on anything will work.
Obama has a lot of good ideas. Research on gun violence is also a good idea. Why it was banned for all these years just goes to show who controls things in the US.
There is overwhelming evidence that the vast majority of crime can be attributed to social conditions. Majority of gun crime is the same way. Interestingly enough, the US has a huge problem with poverty, welfare and an effective social safety net.
So yes I think the debate is being framed the wrong way. Gun control is a small part of the solution.