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Originally Posted by V

Shoot, I should have quoted you before you edited out your crazy irrational name calling rant.

And to answer your question, I wouldn't have a problem if there were just a few bad owners out there. So many owners lack control over their dogs, it's comical. I honestly don't know how they live with it. The little yippy monsters for example. I always get a kick out of the number of people with these little things that go insane whenever the doorbell rings. When I have the pleasure of selling chocolate almonds with my kids every year it always amazes me. No control at all. How do you live like that??

And the dog owners that love to let their dogs off leash in a playground so that the dog can jump all over my baby. You can't even tell the owner to leash they're dog, because they just tell you, "oh, my dog loves kids, it's fine". No, fatanuts, it's not fine.

No, there are plenty of bad dog owners. I find it surprising that it can even be argued. It's no different than any cross-section of people. There are far more idiots out there than not. Just check out the GMG thread for constant reminders. I don't know why dog owners would somehow be different.

Originally Posted by AFireInside

It's their house if they don't mind their dogs barking like crazy it's up to them. I don't know how my neighbors can live with their three toddlers screaming non-stop. But it doesn't affect me all that much so whatever. I certainly hear screaming kids far more often than barking dogs in my neighborhood how do they live like that? (Yes I know dogs aren't equal to kids) but I can't understand how aot of people live the way they live.

As for owners leaving their dogs off leash in non off leash areas, that is completely unacceptable and you need to stand your ground on that. You can do it without being rude, and hopefully the owner acts accordingly.

There are bad owners, parents, drivers, etc. I don't see people calling for bans on those aspects of society when they are much more dangerous.

No one here has said that there aren't bad owners but you need to get over yourself a little bit when stating there are way more idiots out there than not. I guarantee you there are times you are out and about and you do something you may not be aware of and those around you who don't know you are thinking you are an idiot. They don't know you and are basing their judgement of you on a brief interaction.

Once again, dog attacks are very rare if you avoid dog parks, and dog owners homes it's appears to be less than half of a half of 1%.

I think V's post actually expanded the discussion, though. You are referencing dog attacks - and fairly given the topic of this thread - but V was more talking about poor dog behaviour and bad owners in general, which is probably a natural direction for the topic and one in need of solutions as well.