Of course I'm being very tongue in cheek.
Look I'm not trying to twist your ideas, but it's been pointed out on a per dog basis pitbulls aren't even the most dangerous in terms of fatalities and attacks. When a term encompasses 3 - 4 breeds and any mix thereof the numbers will be inflated.
Second you're making A LOT of assumptions. Thers must be a lot of dog bites that go unreported, well then they likely did little to no damage, but that would also apply to every other crime. Just simply pointing out that the level of danger to you is being GREATLY over exaggerated.
A muzzle law, leading to improper socialization may lead to more damaging attacks if the dog ever gets free. It's not the correct solution, at least not initially. Secondly it's a big mistake to have pitbulls socialize only witb pitbulls, if they encounter a small dog or child and try to play the same way as they would with other large dogs it's more of a danger.
I didn't say we are at a 25 year low now, the project lead to a 25 year low showing that proper legislation can and does work. Increase the penalties and be a little more firm on the regulations.
You're making assumptions based on what you read in the media, you don't know that attacks are on the rise. I would expect that attacks are at roughly the same level as previous years give or take a few percentage points in either direction.
As for banning other breeds, where does it end? When we all own weiner dogs?
No thanks I don't need the government having that kind of control. As I stated previously irresponsible owners of large trucks and sports cars are a much greater danger to me but no one saying everyone has to drive a prius and I wouldn't expect them to.
Stop making assumptions, stop being so afraid and start looking for reasonable solutions.
Experts in dogs, and dog behavior aren't calling for a ban and they know more than all of us.
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Originally Posted by Sliver
I realize you are being somewhat tongue-in-cheek with the children comparison and not to pick on you as the comparison has come up multiple times in this thread and others, but it is terrible. I'm not responding to it anymore as it's been addressed numerous times other than to say kids are not equal to dogs.
You guys continue to twist my ideas then argue against your own version of what I said. I respect you a lot as a poster so I'm surprised at you in particular for doing this. I didn't say dog owners should go to a compound. I was saying non-muzzled pit bulls shouldn't be allowed in public. If your pit bull needs socialization sans muzzle, you should take it outside of Calgary. This is in the context of there being a muzzle law in response to somebody saying dogs wearing muzzles can't socialize properly (which may or may not even be true - no evidence was cited). This would be no different than having to ride your horse at a ranch outside of town as I'm pretty sure - though I could be wrong - that you aren't allowed to ride your horse anywhere you want in the city.
There is nothing irrational about my arguments. Just because we're seeing a lot of group think on the pro-dog side of the debate doesn't make it the right side.
I doubt anybody here would entertain the notion for one second that anywhere near the amount of dog bites that actually happen are reported. That's a bit of a side step on my part as I obviously can't back that up with any proof, but I would think that would be a basic assumption we would all have.
Feel free to start a thread about assaults in Calgary as I'm sure there are legitimate concerns out there. I started this thread on dog attacks, which is what I wanted to discuss here. Just because there are human-on-human assaults doesn't mean we can't talk about the rash of dog violence.
Yes, and as I've said I never supported banning dogs over a certain size. That's your mistake to think it is my position and I've clarified it in this thread already.
Yes, and when you said that I said we should look at banning those other dangerous breeds as well. It keeps coming back to pit bulls because they're in the news for attacking somebody every second day in Calgary lately. If rottweilers were attacking people right now I'd be using that breed as my example.
Well if we are at a 25-year low that's fantastic. I don't see why we can't keep improving that and the recent attacks to me suggest attacks are on the rise. Even reading through this thread and looking at all the attacks there have been since I started it (relatively recently) it only bolsters my position that something more needs to be done to protect people from these unnecessary attacks.
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