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Old 01-06-2013, 10:18 PM   #281
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Agreed... if the city wants to continue suppressing parking supply downtown, it needs to ensure that transit is a viable alternative or it will simply be causing decentralization. That's where the 8th Ave Subway comes in.
That's where a lot of things come in really. Bus-only lanes into the CBD and also in the CBD itself, more routes with articulated buses, more circulating-type bus routes in the CBD and surrounding areas, and of course new LRT lines with their own dedicated route through the downtown - i.e. Southeast and North Central.

The 8th Avenue Subway is important indeed, but I'm starting to see the argument whereby it doesn't necessarily need to be the highest priority in order to increase transit capacity into the downtown. Building it as the first priority (combined with an increase in LRVs in operation of course) absolutely would though, don't get me wrong.

4 car train operation, improved track and signalling technologies (both on their way to happening) and the Southeast line will work to free up the capacity needs of the south line for a bit and thereby knock the 8th Avenue Subway down the priority list a bit. Other things like replacing the older U2 LRVs will help with realized capacity too due to improved capacity and reliability.

Now, if the timeline for Route Ahead is 30 years, I don't think that it should wait that long (I think pent-up demand and other factors will fill up 4 car trains faster than is officially expected, for example), but I think the southeast line (or at least a portion thereof) can go first.

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