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Originally Posted by Lanny_MacDonald
Where is anything "leftist" in that approach? Seems that you are just another one of those morons who get their knowledge from FoxNews and use the same tactics to make your argument. "Whatever I don't agree with is leftist rubbish!!!" Kindly pointout where I made any "leftist" claims? It seems that you and mbrown (sharing those same two failing brain cells) have your ends of the political spectrum all confused. I'm supposedly a leftist, but a supporter of Facists. Which is?
Britain did so of their own choice. They did NOT have a gun pointed at them telling them they would do anything. THEY as a people made they choice.
Wow, I guess you did crack that grade 8 civics book. Good for you! And did I say any different (although you are going to get an argument from many an American in this regard)?
Sinking fast in what way? Believing that country and its people should be able to chart their own course in the world? Believing that an illegal invasion under false pretenses in immoral and that attempting to install a false illiberal democracy in that country is wrong and will fail, doing more damage to the cause than good? I don't see that as sinking, and based on the reactions of others, neither do they. That's called standing up for the rights of others and believing that they have the right to make their own choices, not be forced into something at the end of gun.
The only one that is sinking here is you. If you would spend less time waiving your arms in the air, attempting to draw attention away from the fact you have nothing to support you, and bring something to the table it would be not only refreshing, but stop you from sinking. All that time you are waiving your arms madly, screaming look over there, look over there, you are not treading water and going under.
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Your knowledge of history is tenuous at best as is your grip or reality. Someone who says and believes that a murderous dictator is needed to keep people in line and spew that they, the Iraqis, had no idea what they were doing as though you and you alone had intimate knowledge of what Iraqis thought or knew is at the very least arrogant and more likely truely insane. No one in their right mind could possibly take you seriously when you say such things. It has nothing to do with being for or against the Anglo-American invasion or occupation. Those things that you HAVE said are truely whacked!
You have turned a blind eye to reality and history and instead have twisted history to your own liking. You make the point that the Americans are/were holding a gun to their heads and the Iraqis should have been(be) allowed to make their own choices. When did the Americans, Brittish, Japanese, Korean, Dutch, Italian, etc... put a gun to the Iraqi's collective heads and say "VOTE OR ELSE!"???? It was quite the opposite. It was the terrorists saying "Don't vote or else". The Iraqi people made a choice to ignore that threat and vote, 3 times! No one forced them to do that. No one. They made their choice. They chose to elect their government. The first time in their lives. No one was installed except by the Iraqi people themselves. Some how this is invalid because, according to you, they don't have internet access or TV and didn't check out the issues properly? Lanny before TV and the internet arrived in Canada...were we a democracy??