Thread: "The Hobbit"
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:18 AM   #566
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Originally Posted by AR_Six View Post
It's a little more complex than that in that he's more like a demi-god who is sent as a hand of the gods (the Valar) into middle earth to oppose Sauron. Really, the entire story of LOTR was unnecessary - at any time, the handful of Valar sitting over in the undying lands could have decided they weren't down with Sauron's BS and simply ended it, but they didn't intervene directly, they sent agents - Gandalf, Radagast, Saruman, Alatar and Pallando (the last two of whom are in the east and aren't heard from) to influence events. That's just how they choose to intervene. So, Gandalf's purpose isn't to personally run the world, it's to assist and counsel and influence events without being the direct cause of them (though at times he arguably oversteps himself).

Really, the question of who happens to have control of Erebor at any given time is trivial politics to an immortal being who is thousands of years old. The issue is that Smaug could cause serious issues if he was involved in the war against Sauron and the western powers had to contend with him as well as Mordor (and as it turns out Isengard). Spurring on a quest to re-take the mountain is a way to fix that and thereby influence events to the detriment of Sauron, but it's only part of a larger purpose, which is why in the book Gandalf frequently disappears for long stretches of time to "attend to other business".
However, that's a common theme in spirituality and mythology all over the world. If you do what is right the gods will help you, but you gotta be prepared to make sacrifices and try your hardest. The gods won't do it all for you.

They often send their messengers, or their helpers, or their angels too. They don't directly intervene. So it is a theme and feeling that feels natural and right, as it goes directly to our ancient stories and even our morals.

So the eagles in The Hobbit WERE in the book? I couldn't remember that. But it's been a long long time since I read the book. I did notice a lot of extra stuff, backstory stuff, and Similarion stuff.
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