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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
Couldn't disagree more. I was annoyed they didn't discuss Bilbo's "Tookishness" in Shire. It's the whole damn reason he leaves on the journey.
As for the "broken dishes, and broken plates, that's what Bilbo Baggins hates" I remember it being one of the early highlight of the novel.
You hated Riddles in the Dark? That is maybe the best episode of the entire novel. Give your head a shake.
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I already stated very clearly that the movie is obviously not for me. I thought it was average. A generous average and I mostly am writing that so all the hipster nerds don't go ape-#### on me.
But basically I don't understand why everybody has such a hard-on for riddles in the dark. What was it that was so dramatically superior? You can barely understand wtf Gollum even says half the time, and it ran, as is typical with these long-winded largely unexplained odysseys, way too long. Like I said at first, cool idea, and then they take that cool idea, and beat the crap out of it. Just my opinion, and realizing I'm in the minority.
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Originally Posted by Matata
The eagles used to be allied with the good guys (elves, dwarves, humans, etc.) and used to fight in their wars against evil (the armies of Morgoth). The eagles motivation for getting involved was that Morgoth had a pile of dragons which could destroy the eagle's nesting areas, and dwarves and elves were pretty good at killing dragons.
Sauron only has a handful of drakes, which aren't enough to pose a real threat to the eagle's nests and the eagles don't see the point in dying for someone else's cause. Due to their ancient relationship with Gandalf, they were willing to help him out, but only when he faced certain death. They did save Frodo at the end, but that was only when Mordor had been emptied of it's armies and Sauron utterly defeated.
Asking the eagles to fly the ring across a continent, at the same time Sauron was using the bulk of his might to find the ring, would have been a very tall order and very risky. It's unlikely that they could avoid the gaze of Sauron or his agents for the whole trip, at which point Sauron could intercept them and/or fortify mount doom, and end up with the ring.
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So when did they explain anything about the eagles, at all, in Hobbit (or LOTRs for that matter)? Hell you're not even referring to the right movie here. In Hobbit, Jackson was running long because he simply wasted so much fataing time earlier. So in order to cut to the chase he has giant eagles fly in, grab everybody, beat up some wolves, and then fly away. I presume you're just repeating stuff that's in the book that may or may not explain an incredibly important plot point. Sometimes movies can get away without explaining things in the book, however, random hero saving birds that are the sole reason for the protagonist's survival, well, maybe we could explain that a bit more and have less of the time-filler dwarf dishes slumber party.
Above, the unexplained, is typical of a Peter Jackson film. If you haven't read the books, bend over. Also good luck trying to remember/ follow the names when the characters start to go on and refer to characters that haven't been introduced yet, and what relevance any of these characters have to the story (this is usually unexplained too actually). It usually goes something like this:
Gandalf- "It is I, Gandalf the Grey"
elf person or something like that- "Gandalf, we have been waiting for you and were out beating up some orcs"
Gandalf- "good to see you friend, this is my angry dwarf friend, Azgarothianiquay of Glubinsunaladayau, deep within the Reliftinquajaush forests. He holds resentment for you because of something another different elf did a long time ago, not you guys but presumably your relations of some sort."
elf- "nice to meet you Azgarothianiquay, I am Wer####ajnsuhsajal, and this is Polisutehsankslki and her husband Tuayaatananauu of the desert elf race the Boroboro tribes, descendants of the Ugtahana..."
you get the drift.
It is just sort of shocking that for having 5,000 hours of movie, so much gets left unexplained.
Giant rock fight. WHY?