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trackercowe · 12-27-2012, 01:32 AM

Well I wasn't really comparing TNG with the Adam West Batman, it was more a comparison to the Shatner original series.

What's misguided in your post is comparing the Abrams Star Trek with something like Transformers, as they aren't even in the same realm. I could use reviews and analysis from actual critics to back me up, but do I really have to? Star Trek was one of the top reviewed movies of 2009, and is already in consideration as one of the best Trek movies of the series. I would put Wrath of Khan ahead of it, but only because of what Ricardo Montalban brought to the movie. If Abrams can create a villain near his level in the sequel, then it should surpass II.

People put way too much damn weight in his overuse of lens flares. Whenever I read a negative review about the movie it always brings up the lens flares; maybe it's time to get over that? Even Abrams said he used too many, but it obviously didn't make it a bad movie. 95% on Rottentomatoes is pretty damn exceptional, call it a popularity contest if you want, or put as much weight into reviews as you like; but the Transformers movies received poor reviews, so that's a terrible comparison to make.

I don't want to get into an argument with a Trekkie though, but when I said the real Star Trek sucked I meant the original series for the most part. From what I have seen from TNG it was actually quite good, and had much more going for it that the Shatner Star Trek. But, if you use the movies as a comparison the Stewart movies were pretty mediocre as a whole.

12-27-2012, 01:32 AM	#272
trackercowe Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Exp:	Well I wasn't really comparing TNG with the Adam West Batman, it was more a comparison to the Shatner original series. What's misguided in your post is comparing the Abrams Star Trek with something like Transformers, as they aren't even in the same realm. I could use reviews and analysis from actual critics to back me up, but do I really have to? Star Trek was one of the top reviewed movies of 2009, and is already in consideration as one of the best Trek movies of the series. I would put Wrath of Khan ahead of it, but only because of what Ricardo Montalban brought to the movie. If Abrams can create a villain near his level in the sequel, then it should surpass II. People put way too much damn weight in his overuse of lens flares. Whenever I read a negative review about the movie it always brings up the lens flares; maybe it's time to get over that? Even Abrams said he used too many, but it obviously didn't make it a bad movie. 95% on Rottentomatoes is pretty damn exceptional, call it a popularity contest if you want, or put as much weight into reviews as you like; but the Transformers movies received poor reviews, so that's a terrible comparison to make. I don't want to get into an argument with a Trekkie though, but when I said the real Star Trek sucked I meant the original series for the most part. From what I have seen from TNG it was actually quite good, and had much more going for it that the Shatner Star Trek. But, if you use the movies as a comparison the Stewart movies were pretty mediocre as a whole. Last edited by trackercowe; 12-27-2012 at 01:36 AM.