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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
When you remove the first choice a significant number of people who might've used it won't go on to choice #2. Obviously some might not be deterred and might turn to making a bomb. But that number is far, far lower than the number of people who might grab an easily available gun. I'm not saying zero people would use bombs. But its pretty obvious not everybody who's used a gun to threaten or shoot people would make a bomb.
Guns enable violent crimes of passion because they are so ready at hand. It someone goes into a rage or heartbreak they aren't going to spend a weekend or week constructing a bomb. They will attack with a knife or gun or w/e is readily at hand.
Your argument only works for those who are planning and premeditating a larger scale attack. And yes some of those people could research, acquire the materials to construct, and then construct a bomb. What % that is we don't know exactly. But certainly some of the people would fail or just not complete some of those steps. Constructing a bomb with a remote detonation device is not something that a lot of people could complete IMO. Constructing a bomb with a fuse seems a little more reasonable.
The point is that it is much, much, much harder to construct a working bomb that will reliably go off and kill a bunch of people when you want it to. The issue is the ease of access to deadly weapons.
Finding a gun in your house? Easy
Buying a gun legally? Easy
Constructing a powerful bomb with a remote detonation device? Extremely hard
Constructing a small pipe bomb with a fuse? Still a lot more effort and work than most people would go to and requires a lot more planning and premeditation.
Care to point out how many bomb deaths there are per year in the US?
My argument was not that removing guns from the equation takes away all killing weapons. But you cannot seriously be arguing that everyone who commits a gun murder would have turned to making a bomb because we all know that isn't true.
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I could make an explosive device in 5 hours as where getting a gun would take much much longer. The whole it's the guns is just illogical, if a mentally ill person wants to cause harm they have so many options that placing the entirety of the blame on one thing is a giant mistake.
People are misinterpreting the point here, yes assault rifles and ammo should obviously be made insanely hard to get but that won't really change much, it's a quick fix of the symptom but it doesn't assess the root cause. The guns aren't doing the shooting, to fix the problem we need to take away the root cause that's pushing these troubled young men to commit such atrocities. It's not a copout, it's a complete understanding of what pushes someone to do something so heinous. It's not a matter of weaponization because you or I could go to Canadian Tire with $50 and do something just as bad as any one of these guys a few hours later. Of course there aren't mass bombings now because guns are so easy to get but take them away and people will just switch to the next easiest solution. You can buy a fuze that would do its job for $5, it's way way easier than you are making it out to be. Fuze, lighter, fuel, canister... it doesn't take a high-tech weapon to cause massive damage, the U.S. army is befuddled by $20 improvised explosives hidden on the roadside and they've spent billions trying to fight them to no avail.