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Originally Posted by TitovFTW
But the trade market for pitching is a lot different now. Look at what Gonzalez, Latos and Shields all got back.
Johnson very well could walk. But if ownership is willing to spend on Dickey and everyone else, no reason to think Jays wouldn't offer up the moon to keep him.
Not sure I get the "pay money like Dickey was a FA" and also the fact that you're trading for him, guarantees his services as opposed to bidding on a free agent. Of course you're going to have to give up a lot for him, especially with the value he has only making 5 million next season, less then John Buck.
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I agree that the trade market for a top 1/2 of the rotation starting pitcher is remarkable right now. My "pay money like Dickey was a FA" point is that an extension, I would suspect, would be a 2-3 deal that would add money to his 2013 salary so he wouldn't earn just $5M. Regardless, the amount of money the Jays will pay Dickey to have the trade go through and keep him with the team beyond a 1-year rental will be similar to that which they would have had to have paid a FA. The benefit, however, to signing someone like Sanchez or Jackson is that you wouldn't have to give up any assets.
To me, the Dickey deal was the absolute worst case scenario - pay an old guy a ton of money, a guy that to me is not proven to be worth what the Jays gave up or what they are reportedly going to pay him, and they had to give up significant assets to gain the ability to sign him to an extension.
I get a certain degree of the sentiment that prospects are there largely to get proven players (which is ironic on a Flames site), but the quality and number (2) of prospects for Dickey is something I'm just not on board with.
I hope the deal falls apart and AA picks up someone else for the rotation on the FA ticker or waits until spring training and deals with someone like LA who has an excess of SPs. If the deal goes through, I hope I'm wrong and Toronto wins a WS within a couple years.