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Old 12-16-2012, 12:56 PM   #1109
TitovFTW
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Originally Posted by Matty81 View Post
I don't think you know where the Jays are at in the AL East right now any more than I do. Claiming they need Dickey to push them over the top at any cost when we haven't even seen how they play together is nothing more than guesswork. The team they have could add Marcum for nothing and win the AL East for all we know.

Also, the ability of teams to restock their teams farms quickly with financial resources is gone in the new system. It's going to be more similar to the NHL where bad management is rewarded with so many good prospects - there are firm caps on international free agents and the draft. The Jays can take the approach they did this year and sign a few higher profile guys at the expense of quantity but they aren't going to be able to re-stock the system the way teams burning through prospects have in the past.

Also, will Dickey take 13 a year from the Jays that he would have taken in NY who gave him his shot to start and taxes are lower? I dunno. Either way, the Mets aren't trading 3 years of Dickey, they're trading 1. If the Jays negotiate an extension, they pay Dickey for that, not the Mets unless they want to sign and trade. Gives them a few extra million to spend this year, some of which they are apparently sending to the Mets to pay John Buck's salary in the deal.
The Jays could have it all blow up next season and everyone flame out or at least very key players. But that's not how you build a team. You have to alook at your team and see where you think they are and what would you put you into that next level. I tend to think that's how the Jays view this. You build your team up the best you can to believe you've given them the best talent to achieve your goals. The rest are things you just can't measure or trade for or avoid.

I also think it's a great job by the Jays to pay money to give Buck to the Mets instead of a prospect. Great job by ownership.

Mets are only trading 1 year and kudos to them on having a pitcher of this talent to be able to trade. I think it's a great trade for the Mets and a really good trade for the Blue Jays.

The Jays sure did know how to play the system of the old draft rules. I think even under the new ones, 3 seasons is suffice enough time for a team that puts that much money into scouting. And the Jays looted the system last year and the draft process hasn't changed from last year.

And as much risk as we've discussed about Dickey having. There was talk this offseason about D'Arnaud might having to become a DH. This is a catcher coming off knee surgery. I don't see how that's not equal to the risk of Dickey
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