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Old 12-16-2012, 04:00 AM   #1074
TitovFTW
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Coles Notes type reaction to today:

I'm all for listening to why the Jays shouldn't give up these quality prospects, but your argument is completley ruined when you suggest Dickey is a 1 year wonder and categorize him as just some "38 year old pitcher". People have spent the week making fun of Jays fans for how poorly they talk about Dickey compared to the rest of the baseball world. And it's insane to say he's a 3 WAR pitcher after 3 seasons fine tuning the knuckleball, that somehow he's going to just regress and now throw it as effectively this season. R.A Dickry is a really freaking good pitcher and statistics show that.

Yes, the Jays have given up a lot of prospects this summer but they've also improved their team greatly. At a time when the Yankees are doing nothing and the Red Sox look like a below average team.

I like Travis D'Arnaud but people Travis D'Arnaud is not a franchise changing prospect. And that's not even counting his knee surgery.

You give up a strong arm in the trade, but you're still full of pitching in your system and still have a high draft pick this season.

The Blue Jays are a 90 win team right now. They've got a ton of all star players in the prime of their careers. Signing Edwin Jackson or going after a big catch at the trade deadline will not change this. It takes elite level talent to make that jump, and if you've got the core and you think now is your time in the AL East, then you go for it. Don't you think your plan has to change when you're able to bring in elite level talent and you look at having the best 3-4 hitters in all of MLB?

Dickey will face tougher lineups in the AL East, but he'll also get to pitch in a dome stadium which is just as big a determining factor.

People need to realize what the asking price for quality starting pitching is. Look at last year with Latos and Gonzalez, who are both not #1 pitchers either.

The Blue Jays are doing this smart. Some people need to read those tweets again. The Jays are not going through with this trade until the extension is signed.

A lot of people against this seem to be wishing the Jays would just continue to cycle incredibly strong young talent through the system. Something hardly any MLB teams can actually do. But it shows a level of ignorance as the Jays are not a team of 20 something all stars trying to speed up the process. The Jays have 3 years left of a lot of all star players in their prime. Travis D'Arnaud is the only Jays prospect that could step in next season and make a difference. And even that's a stretch as he's coming off knee surgery.


I'm okay with people saying perhaps the Jays gave up to much. Just don't take that anger or dislike for it and put it on Dickey and sell his talent short. It's simply not fair
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