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Old 12-05-2012, 09:48 AM   #253
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard View Post
Do you really think that the minister has any decision making ability at the level of individual nursing care plans? I have worked in long term care facilities and I can tell you for a fact that there isn't the staff nor is there the facilities that exist to have every single person have a shower every day and while once a week seems minimal, it is a time intensive process to do a full bath on a person, particularly someone who has had a stroke.

I just consider it strange how the Wildrose has made mention of the bloated public service and yet at the same time makes grandiose assertions of what should be done in long term care facilities.

Also people are cleaned after they soil themselves - people can't always have a full shower because they would be having 5+ showers a day often times. Quick question - how many days has Kerry Towle worked in a long term care facility, not looking after her brother but looking after 10+ people each of whom take 30-45 minutes for a full bath which needs to be done in a very organized and scrupulous manner with a great deal of planning - the person has to be organized and transported to the tub (challenging in cases of limited mobility, decreased cognition and confusion), the bath first needs to be filled, checked using two thermometers to ensure that the temperature won't burn the resident, after that the person often has to be loaded into a special lift designed to get residents into and out of the tub, they then need to have the water stay at a constant temperature while they are bathed, they are then removed from the water, dried off, dressed, transported back to their room/common area, where the bedding is changed and often times put back into bed because it is strenuous for everyone... oh and then the tub needs to be sanitized as well as the lift and any other products used to prevent infection ... they are there because they can't bath themselves or perform other activities of daily living.

My purpose of posting the links was to illustrate that other things were being debated in the Legislature; not to debate those items.

I do expect Ministers to have knowledge of what goes on in the facilities under their umbrella.

Do I expect them to have all the answers? No.
Do I expect the opposition to have all the answers? No.
Do I explect all elected MLA's to work together to find solutions? Yes.
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