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Old 12-04-2012, 10:54 PM   #25
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The F-22 is not even worth discussing, Capt Crunch knows what he's talking about.

Euro will have it's own issues, the Hawk is a bit of a logistics nightmare, I can't imagine the Euro. BAE is brutally expensive, entry into the market is the easy part, after sales support will kill you.

Anything but the F-35 is just saving face right now. The F-35, as advertised is the right jet for Canada. DND knows it, the fighter community knows it, but it's a disaster. If we go with 4th gen fighters we will be changing our role in world affairs, no question.

The optics suck, we're over a barrel, and I don't think staying in for the long haul is gonna be easy, but the options just suck.

And seriously, 2 engines is a red herring. The gains of having a single, modern, reliable jet engine far outweigh the risks. DND has made the case for and accepted a singe engine. Let it go people.
The Hawk is a trainer aircraft on loan to the CF, not sure where you're going there...

What issues will the Eurofighter have? It's already flying and seen combat. The F-35 is a flying lemon that has had setback after setback, cost the conservativs big political points and ran way over budget. Besides, even if we were to get the F-35 it's not like 65 jets would make a big difference anyway. The comms system doesn't work in the arctic and it loses stealth as soon as it carries an external weapon or fuel pod.

Canada doesn't need to be doing stealth first strike missions anyway. Leave that to the US, we need some aircraft for the same tasks as Libya and Bosnia. We also need them for sovereignty patrols. Get a cheaper aircraft and get more of them.
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