I always hate Israel Palestine arguements because they always seem to founder on attempts by both sides to paint it as a black and white affair, it never has been, the arabs were screwed over when my people, the Brits, gave away their land, the Arab respocne in '48 was equally wrong, the Jewish treatment of arabs through 48 onwards was brutal and wrong, the idea that someone living on land in 1947 or 2047 BC gives them moral authority is also inane.
Israel exists and has the right to continue to exist, it does not need the west bank or Gaza and if they had any sense would trade that land for peace while they are utterly in charge of the region, we, the west, should withdraw all our support for Israel until they do as it is not in our interest to support Israel, they aren't an ally in fact from the wests point of veiw Israel is a pain in the arse that does nothing for us and will always put their own self interest before ours.
Our position should be we will gaurentee your existance with the full power of NATO if you make peace but you are totally on your own otherwise.
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