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Originally Posted by gargamel
I'm not denying that there are bad people involved in the porn industry, but that doesn't mean that the industry itself is bad or that people who watch porn are implicitly condoning that behavior. Have you read about the way that migrant farm workers are treated? I'm going to guess that you blame the specific farmers who treat them that way, and don't jump to the conclusion that tomatoes are demeaning to men.
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I think that if you have the information about a subject and the means to stop supporting it then that's something you should consider. You don't need porn, but you do need food, and if your options are limited then I do think you should eat rather than starve yourself. If I know enough about an industry to disagree with its practices and the means to stop supporting it, I do.
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Originally Posted by gargamel
As for the on-screen stuff, I suspect that our perceptions of what is demeaning differ greatly. For example, is the woman being demeaned if she's on her back while one man has sex with her and another pumps away at her mouth? What if a man is on his back and one woman has sex with him while another rides his face? I suspect that you believe that none of the three men in those two scenarios are "demeaned," while at least one if not all three of the women are. Why is that? Is it because you view sex as something that is more for the enjoyment of men than for women? If so, that's very sad, not to mention sexist.
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I'm not sure why you make assumptions about my thoughts and then go on to question them and call me sexist for a thought I don't even have. Were you actually interested in hearing my answer or opinion, or did you just want to make a point?
If it appears that they're being forced into it and treated as sexual objects (which from your description it sounds like they are) then it sounds pretty demeaning to both the woman and the man in those situations respectively. Demean is defined as "to lower in dignity, honour, or standing", and forcing someone to perform a sex act if nothing else lowers their standing, and one could argue it would lower their dignity and honour as well. Also, I think breaking it down into one sex act is overly simplistic. Even if the specific acts you described weren't demeaning to anyone, I imagine the majority of pornographic videos don't consist of solely one moment or sex act.