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Originally Posted by Matty81
Its not like Trudeau himself is going to shape their platform. There will be a team and they will position themselves as centrists because its politically convienient. Any party that wants to win knows that and does it. Its exactly what Harper did, was more extreme when he was younger and positioned himself more and more moderate. And he was the opposite of polished in his youth. Awkward and often angry in interviews, much worse than Trudeau IMO interview ability wise. He learned and got better.
The thing is, there are certain issues like abortion, gun control and marijuana where the Conservatives won't touch the majority point of view just on principles, so unless our society gets more religious or conservative in a hurry, I think the Liberals will out flank them in the race to the centre. I don't buy that Trudeau will run on a super lefty platform strategically, I think thats old people fearing his Dad.
As for him being dumb, well he may be, I don't think that but I don't know it any more than you do. I've made many decisions and said many things I look back on as dbaggish and I wouldn't be defined as dumb by conventional standards. I learn from peoples reactions and the consequences, get stronger and move on.
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The abortion issue is dead and buried, I have no problem with the gun control issue I had problems with a gun registry that was stupid, ill conceived and did nothing to stem the flow of illegal guns. The only issue that I have is with the grass laws, but that to me is not a big deal personally. I don't see this government as some socially regressive monster.
And if your saying that the Liberal Party leader is going to be a figure head who is going to be guided by back room committees then you've got a party problem. Harper good or bad has shaped the Conservatives and their policies since he started climbing to the leadership role, he was one of the key policy cogs when he was in opposition.
I don't see the Liberal's moving back to center right now, I don't think they can. I also think that allowing guys like Bob Rae and some of the other looneys to retain key party positions prevents that.
The Liberal's are a mess, they have bad leadership and they're backing the wrong horse.