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Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay
While I agree with pretty much everything you say, BBS does have one point. There are certain enviromental issues around that area that I think would lead to a lower speed limit. Its rather hilly around those parts and the grade of the road still gets kinda steep in certain spots and if memorys serves, its not properly lit yet. I suspect we will see that speed limit increase when the road as a whole is finished.
You are bang on with regards to lights on bridges, I mean, WTF is up with that? You build a bridge to speed up traffic only to put lights on it to slow it down? I too question some of the road engineering in this city. Have for years.
/ducks from the wrath of BBS
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Oh there is no wrath for you GATW, see you're a little reasonable and know that there are things you dont' know.
For example the really bad idea of putting lights on overpasses and changing clover leafs to overpasses with lights, I hate those too, and they do slow down traffic (at least on the overpass) so why would they put them in?
Prime example is Shag and Crowchild. An overpass was needed and the obvious solution is a cloverleaf as it is the most efficient. Unfortunately 4X4 had at that point not taken my advice to teach the city planners how to do their jobs and was unable to tell them this and instead the engineers decided on the currend design with a bunch of lights. How stupid could they be? And to think the reasoing they used was something as stupid as the following:
1) Calgary has one of the highest rates of accidents on clover leaf style interchanges in the country (whether its due to bad drivers or poor conditions doesn't really matter, and is up for debate)
2) The decided upon design is the best possible design for reducing the type of accidents that occur at an alarming rate in Calgary. Mainly due to the lack of wide sweeping turns and merge lanes that can be dangerous in icy conditions.
3) Shag is not a major commuter route compared to Crochild and other roads that intersect it (eg, nosehill or sarcee), so a less efficinet design would not have the extreme impact it would at those sites, besides clearing up congestion on crowchild and a safe interchange was the priority.
4) Sarcee is a major commuter route onto crowchild hence a hybrid design was chose for that interchange to reduce danger and congestion as much as possible.
If only 4X4 had been around to put an end to all of that and make the right decisions for everyone.