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HPLovecraft · 11-21-2012, 07:05 AM

This propaganda we sometimes hear about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict being equal to or worse than the Holocaust is absolutely disgusting. It's said by people looking to minimize the evil the Holocaust actually was, turn its acute emotional impact against the Jews, and shape the tragedy into current political benefit.

The Jews suffered almost 6 million dead during the Holocaust. They suffered a systematic program intended to destroy their entire people, with major population centres spanning multiple countries targeted. Civilians were brought out en mass in some locations, like in the Ukraine, and executed due to the simple fact of them being Jews and the claim that Jews were inherently partisans. They were targeted for mass murder for the simple fact of who they were. Extermination camps were set up where hundreds of thousands of Jews were shipped to. They were put in unventilated train cars, separating child from mother, where many died along the way, only to be unloaded, used as slave labour in many cases until they collapsed, and then gassed. Jews were forced to wear arm bands so any non-Jew could identify them at a glance in order to facilitate easier discrimination.

Palestinian civilians dying is a bad thing. Israeli arms are responsible for the deaths of many Palestinians. However, Israel does not force Palestinian civilians to dig their own graves, then shoot them all. They do not have a bureaucratic system designed for the sole task of eliminating every last one of their people. They do not have death camps. There is no Sonderkommando 4a equivalent. Palestinian-Arabs live freely -- and quite well, might I add -- within the nation of Israel. Palestinians are not dehumanized to such a level that they are tormented in the streets by Israeli policemen just for the entertainment of seeing a Palestinian writhe in agony. The Jews of the Holocaust did not have the ability to elect their own government which could then arm itself.

To compare the Palestinian/Israeli conflict to the Holocaust, and claim it as "far worse" is not only completely wrong, it's also morally despicable. It's a political claim with a very sinister undertone: the attempted debasement of what the Holocaust actually was.

This was the Holocaust, and frankly anyone claiming the two are equivalent or that the Jews are doing the work of the Nazis should be ashamed of themselves:

Spoiler!

11-21-2012, 07:05 AM	#349
HPLovecraft Took an arrow to the knee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Exp:	This propaganda we sometimes hear about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict being equal to or worse than the Holocaust is absolutely disgusting. It's said by people looking to minimize the evil the Holocaust actually was, turn its acute emotional impact against the Jews, and shape the tragedy into current political benefit. The Jews suffered almost 6 million dead during the Holocaust. They suffered a systematic program intended to destroy their entire people, with major population centres spanning multiple countries targeted. Civilians were brought out en mass in some locations, like in the Ukraine, and executed due to the simple fact of them being Jews and the claim that Jews were inherently partisans. They were targeted for mass murder for the simple fact of who they were. Extermination camps were set up where hundreds of thousands of Jews were shipped to. They were put in unventilated train cars, separating child from mother, where many died along the way, only to be unloaded, used as slave labour in many cases until they collapsed, and then gassed. Jews were forced to wear arm bands so any non-Jew could identify them at a glance in order to facilitate easier discrimination. Palestinian civilians dying is a bad thing. Israeli arms are responsible for the deaths of many Palestinians. However, Israel does not force Palestinian civilians to dig their own graves, then shoot them all. They do not have a bureaucratic system designed for the sole task of eliminating every last one of their people. They do not have death camps. There is no Sonderkommando 4a equivalent. Palestinian-Arabs live freely -- and quite well, might I add -- within the nation of Israel. Palestinians are not dehumanized to such a level that they are tormented in the streets by Israeli policemen just for the entertainment of seeing a Palestinian writhe in agony. The Jews of the Holocaust did not have the ability to elect their own government which could then arm itself. To compare the Palestinian/Israeli conflict to the Holocaust, and claim it as "far worse" is not only completely wrong, it's also morally despicable. It's a political claim with a very sinister undertone: the attempted debasement of what the Holocaust actually was. This was the Holocaust, and frankly anyone claiming the two are equivalent or that the Jews are doing the work of the Nazis should be ashamed of themselves: Spoiler! [ __________________ "An adherent of homeopathy has no brain. They have skull water with the memory of a brain." Last edited by HPLovecraft; 11-21-2012 at 07:12 AM.