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Originally Posted by Kipperriffic

Maybe I shouldn't have said that it always happens for every nation, because obviously every situation is different, but specifically for the case of Israel/Palestine, I think there is no option but for the Palestinians to give up on their cause, or suffer huge tragedy. Smarter thing for them to do is to spread out to North America and Europe.

The Arabs living in Israel will eventually have to stop being vocal supportive of palestine as well, I think, for their own sake.

the Jewish will is too strong to have their ownstate, only for them. Thats more admirable that it is disappointing.

(Also, India, specifically, was always an established country. Now Pakstan is one example taht you can point to - but unfortunately, while india rooted out the backward systems from their land, Pak did not and they've suffered for it - they're kid of a failed state now.)

India was not an established country. Prior to colonialism it was a patchwork of random kingdoms.