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Originally Posted by Kipperriffic
What is going to happen eventually is 1-state which does not include palestinians. Whoever is stronger economically, and therefore militarily, get what they want. That is how the world has worked historically. If palestinians really want a state there, it'll happen maybe after a century or so - that is only if they spread into neighboring countries, get financially strong over generations, and keep their identity. Only if you are an influential group can you get others to listen to you and get anything done for yourself . Just like native americans can say "this is our land" all they want but no one actually cares what they say. Same goes for the palestinians. There is never a "right of return", or a "right to a land" - You have to snatch it away from the weak. It's basically over for them. Over time, entire westbank will be annexed and they'll just watch it happen.
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Too much of a demographic issue. There are simply too many Palestinians, and their population is growing too fast.
Your argument is also flawed, in that there have been plenty of poorer populations that have claimed states through numbers alone: See Africa (most recently Zimbabwe), India, etc.. The recent collapse of colonialism has provided with more than just a few examples.
Any lasting peace will have to include arab sovereignty over the Gaza Strip an the vast majority of the West Bank. It may be a return of that land to Jordan/Egypt, but there are just too many Arabs living there for Israel to hold onto it.