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Old 11-20-2012, 12:57 PM   #312
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Originally Posted by blankall View Post
It takes more than a vote to make something democratic. A democratic government even if voted in has to respect basic prinicples like freedom of speech, assembly, religion, etc...and then agree to hold regular elections afterwards.

The arab growth rate far exceeds the Jewish one, so it would be only a matter of time before muslim arabs were the majority. The last time the Palestinians had an election, they voted in Hamas, the least democratic government possible.

So yes you are correct Israelis have no interest in being the subjects of Hamas.

When you have two populations that have two fundamentally different moral and cultural systems, where they draw their basic ideas of what constitutes democracy (in this case Jewish and Arab/Muslim), a true democracy will never work. At least it hasn't come about yet. The two state solution makes more sense, and it has nothing to do with Israelis being undemocratic.
Well, if you had a unified state, Hamas would not be voted in. That becomes clear after a few moments of thought. Therefore that point, along with a few of the non sequiturs in your post, need not be addressed.

Democratization via a Palestinian elected majority would mean a reversal of some biased civic laws and practices, even to the point of biasing them against people of Israeli heritage. These could all be done legally and democratically while making life miserable for a fraction of the society. I abhor that such practices happen now at the expense of Palestinian livelihood, and would vehemently oppose the tables being turned via popular vote... even if it is tempting for some to see it as "just deserts." Unjust is unjust.

Further, democratization via popular vote even when all laws are objectively applied, would inevitably change the cultural make-up of predominantly Jewish areas simply by dilution. I'm not in favour of that.
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