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Originally Posted by Language
So if I were to ask some of you what you thought a viable long term solution was to stability and peace in the region, what would your answer be?
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Well, in Israel's case I think it's fairly simple: stop building settlements. However, there are so many powerful conservative and religious fanatics there that this is unlikely anytime soon.
In the case of the Palestinians, unfortunately, there is no solution. The reason I say this is because the Palestinians have zero control and zero power in terms of their own destiny. The only reason they are in conflict with Israel is because Iran, Syria, Saudi, Jordan and Egypt want them to be. These nations fund, arm and support terrorist organization like Hamas and Hezbollah and do everything they can to keep them relevant and in control. I think alot of people assume the reason that these nations want to destroy Israel is because of religion or some ancient claim to a tiny sliver of desert, but that's simply not true, or at best only partially true. Religion and history are the excuses they use to pull the masses on side and to sell their propoganda. The real reason they oppose Israel is democracy. Israeli Arabs and Palestinians live in the only truly democratic nation in the area. The dictators that rule the surrounding nations don't want the 'seed' of democracy to spread and therefore lose their grip on power. There was hope that the 'Arab Spring' would be part of a democratic uprising but it's become more a case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."
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Originally Posted by Table 5
Where exactly did I condemn only Israel? I said let them have at each other.
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That's a common sentiment and one I can empathize with. The last time the world "let them have at each other" Israel quickly and effectively defeated several invading armies and in the process picked up lands like Gaza, the West Bank and the Sinai Penisula (subsequently returned to Egypt). At the time it was Israel (armed and funded by the US) versus Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon (armed and funded by Russia and China). However, that wasn't the end of it. The world was outraged that Israel would dare to capture land in war and we are still dealing with the results.
If Israel was left to it's own devices and left with no support from the West it would be quickly wiped off the face of the Earth. That's what these extremists and dictators want. That may seem like a solution to some but certaintly not to me. I believe, unlike Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc. that Israel has a 'right to exist' as a nation. Letting them "have at each other" is, in fact, taking sides.