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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Well Cabrera gets the MVP for being the triple crown winner....cue the Sabremetrics crowd to get their pitch forks out for not selecting Mike Trout.
Had the Angles been any good in September I think Trout would have had a better shot. But they faded off a fair bit, which I think made it tough for voters to give the MVP to a guy who wasn't in the league the first month and a half.
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Was going to post something on this before your post, so please don't take this as an attack against your post but just my thoughts on the situation.
You don't even have to factor in Sabermetrics to see Trout had a much better season, all you need to do is realize base running and defense matter and Trout is elite at both of them and Cabrerra is awful at them.
The idea of the Angels as a team and their record being any good in September shouldn't matter at all, especially when you consider the insane numbers Trout put up in that month with a slash line of 289/.400/.500. The Angels just played in a much stronger division then the Tigers did.
I'd say 99% of people who "believe" in Sabermetrics also believe stats need to be used in context. They're not the be all and end all of any argument. People try to pass anyone who "believes" in them to be computer nerds who never actually watch the game or know anything about them. The reason for Sabermetrics is simply, if you're going to judge players on stats, use ones that actually give you an accurate measure of a player. I don't think anyone in the world can make a viable case to batting average or RBI's meaning anything and being horribly flawed statistics. The fact that Miguel Cabrerra came up to bat with something like 90 more batters on base then Trout this season, tells you everything you need to know about RBI's.
The "old boys" of baseball will continue to mock anyone who is "dumb" enough to look in depth at a players statistics, and Cabrera will be voted MVP tonight.