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Originally Posted by squiggs96
If wins don't matter, why do they keep score. Baseball is all about winning. It's why teams play the game and how they determine who is the best. Dismissing wins is ridiculous.
A team will not keep sending out a pitcher unless he can still get wins. There are enough bodies, at cheaper salaries that there is always someone else. you don't get to over 250 wins without being good. How can someone who isn't good get 250 wins? Jack Morris was a five time all star, won three World Series, of which he was he postseason MVP in two and WS MVP in one. You are not a terrible player with those accolades. He had 14 opening day starts and was the highest paid pitcher several times during his career. They don't give those out to bad players. Morris may not be a HOFer, but he was a very good pitcher.
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Wins do matter. A team winning baseball games is clearly important. I'm saying the W-L records of pitchers don't matter. They don't give us an accurate read on how good a pitcher is. For the millions of reasons that is glaringly obvious, due to how good a team is offensively, to how good of a bullpen that pitcher has, what if you're a great pitcher with an awful bullpen?!?
A team will certainly keep sending out a pitcher, no matter what his W-L record is. Cliff Lee never won a game for months this year and the Phillies kept getting shut out when he pitched. Clearly he was still pitching great but his team was not scoring any runs.
I never said Jack Morris as a bad pitcher, I sad he's not hall of fame worthy. His pitching statistics at the end of the day were not that great. He was not terrible. I never called him that.