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Originally Posted by squiggs96
I have been a lifelong Giants fan. I was extremely excited to get him from Oakland and extremely disappointed in the first five years of his San Francisco tenure. Besides some glimpses at his former greatness, a few of which I have been at AT&T Park to witness in person, I couldn't wait for his contract to end. This year has been different. He pitched very well all year in 2012. Every pitcher will have some bad games, and he had 3 terrible ones this year. This was very much needed, since Lincecum had a terrible year. His ERA and losses led the NL. That's unacceptable for him, and the team's supposed ace.
It's not like the Giants have huge bats behind them. I'd agree Zito had a bad year if he lost a lot of games, had a high ERA or from watching 150 out of the 162 games had seen other things. He had a good year this year. This year he was a good pitcher. If you ranked the NL starting pitchers from 1-80 on their pitching up until today, he'd be second on the Giants and probably top 25 in the league. That's not a bad pitcher. It just isn't. I don't forget what happened since he came to SF, but I appreciate what he's done, especially this year.
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Wins and losses don't matter.
Barry Zito is nowhere close to being a top 25 pitcher in this league. He's the 4th best on the Giants. Calling him 2nd best to ta team with MadBum is mind boggling on so many levels. Barry Zito is not that good, statistically clearly tell us that. Barry Zito has not been a good pitcher his entire time with the Giants. He got off to an okay start this year, but his numbers are so inconsistent.
The Giants had one of the best offenses in the NL the second half. I'm not sure why you keep quoting wins and losses for him or Lincecum, they don't matter. The way a pitcher pitches has no bearing on how an offense will perform. None what so ever. A pitcher can get tremendous run support and still pitch bad but win a game. A pitcher like Cliff Lee, can also put up amazing numbers but get no run support and lose games.
Barry Zito is not a top 25 pitcher in MLB. Barry Zito is the #4 or #5 stater on every single major league baseball team