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Old 10-19-2012, 12:11 PM   #51
Rerun
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Originally Posted by mykalberta View Post
But that is how the system is supposed to work. With a majority the Cons have majority on all the committees so they can push the bill through without change but it will take a while, which is how its supposed to happen in a Democracy so that things dont get missed, and I think its required in this day and age especially when you have smart lawyers out there much smarter than our elected officials who can find and exploit loopholes.

Its why a majority gov is so needed, if they have that they can pass what they want but it will take time. There are tricks they can do to push things through quickly but if they do to many of them then then public opinion will turn against them.

Hey I am a cons supporter and all for their proposed legislation, but I dont want to allow something for someone, and then if the sky turns orange and the NDP get in charge then they will try the same bs to get their bills through and then I am stuck being the one hating their reforms and complaining but wont have a leg to stand on.

Committees and public input are an important part of the process whether their suggestions are taken into account or not. In the past it was used to try to get the best possible bill passed for the country regardless of ideology.
I understand your point but the CPC's do have a valid point too. I remember reading this last summer...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4249837/

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“It’s regrettable” that the Conservatives are pushing through such a large bill, said Jean-François Godbout, a parliamentary scholar at the University of Montreal. But “if they’re not doing anything illegal, we can’t really blame them for getting their agenda across.”

Consider the alternative. If the opposition had succeeded in their attempt to force the Conservatives to break their budget bill into four or five parts, debate on much of it would not have begun until the fall. Final votes would typically not have occurred until spring, 2013, at the earliest.

The bills would probably have been better for such consideration. Flaws would have been caught and fixed. But the government’s agenda would have been delayed by a year or more, with future priorities pushed back to 2014.

By forcing this bill through now, the Conservatives have given themselves a clean slate for the fall sitting. Whatever Stephen Harper has planned – changes to equalization? to public-sector union contracts? – there will now be plenty of time to implement it.

Governments like omnibus bills because they can shove a raft of controversial measures into one package and force them through early in a mandate and repair any political damage before the next election.
Harper and the Conservatives have a huge amount of legislation they would like to see passed and I guess this is the only way they can see themselves accomplishing it.

I guess what they are trying to do (not that I can read Harper's mind) is to get the gist of the legislation passed now and fix the flaws down the road.

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