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Old 10-11-2012, 12:39 PM   #183
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Or maybe he just cheated.

Like 11 team mates have testified to?

Or people working in the team staffs?

How about the tests, retroactively done, that show he was using drugs during the first tour win?

Or money trails to a doctor already with a record of prescribing these enhancements?

No, the only reasonable conclusion is that these guys want to gain rep points and props from the world media...?

ummmm oooookaay?
I have never thought or said Armstrong was clean, in fact I have consistantly taken the position that there has never been a clean tour winner in the races 100 odd year history, this is not new, nor has it ever been considered cheating until the last few decades when cycling has been forced to change its stance unwillingly.

I have no problem declaring all previous tour winners dirty and taking all their wins away, Mercx, Indurain, Le Mond, Antuil etcm I just have a problem with screwing with Armstrong when we all know that he was no different from any other rider of both his and all previous eras, and to me it makes not one jot of difference that his team was better at doping than some others, during his era that was just part of compatition, in the same way his team trained better.

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