[JayP]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I've read those posts, and they are simply not a slam dunk. As I mentioned earlier, they depend on the perspective taken and how benefits are quantified. I'm not saying that those studies are any less valid than a study that would suggest an arena build is a profitable measure, all I'm saying is I guarantee you can skin that cat in many different fashions.

I'd like to see you break down exactly what's wrong with the methodology of each of these research papers. It's pretty easy to throw out a baseless claim like that - back it up somehow. Either provide counter research or break down what's wrong with those. It's pretty hilarious that you attempt to discredit the research and then go on to claim in the very same post that a new arena is somehow going to entice more corporations to set up shop in Edmonton. What a reach.

[quote]As for the culture comment, I enjoy the fact you picked Nickleback and KE-$-HA as your extreme examples. Neither of those artists are my favourite either, but I won't bother to argue with you over the fact that just because you don't like them doesn't mean they don't provide culture. Also, many other events, including other artists can be held at arena facilities, maybe even ones that you consider culture.

For me, anything that helps provide the people of this province with more options of things to do and see (even if it simply more One Direction and Lincon Park concerts) is good for the cultrural vibe, quality of life and appeal of this city. And that too has benefit outside of any other financial benefits an arena brings forward. And I do support other cultural areas getting some government funding as well, I just happen to know for a fact, none of those other areas will drive as much income into this city and will be enjoyed by as large a segment of this cities population as the sports events and concerts an Arena will bring, and that is a fact.

Except Edmonton and Calgary already have arenas that provide almost the same service. Sure we miss out of the odd concert here or there because their set-up is too elaborate, but it's a very small percentage. Certainly not enough that it's much of argument in favor of building a new arena for.