[JimmytheT]

HP Lovecraft said:
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"What are the Five Pillars of Islam?

Yes, I have read the Qu'ran. I have a translation right here on my bookshelf by Abdullah Yusuf Ali. And, yes, I see how Islamists have implemented various political ideologies (not sure if they've implemented any tenants) in those countries. However, the way Islam has been utilized as a political ideology in those countries, along with others like Iran, varies, and is dependent on the ideology of those human beings that have implemented it. Islam is not monolithic across the Middle-East.

Have you read the Qur'an? If so, which translation? Have you read any of the hadiths? It takes more than visiting the atheism sub-Reddit to properly earn the title of freethinker, and if you want to debate Qur'anic verse, I'll be here all day."
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Don't bother warning the disbelievers. Allah has made it impossible for them to believe so that he can torture them forever after they die. 2:6-7

Allah has sickened the hearts of disbelievers and increased their disease. He is a spiritual anti-doctor. 2:10

If you try to compose a surah that is better than those in the Quran, and then fail, Allah will burn you forever if you in the fire that he has prepared for disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24

Allah will shed human blood while angels praise him in heaven. (The angels question why Allah has to kill people; Allah says they'd understand if they knew everything like he does.) 2:30

They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein." 2:39

Christians and Jews (who believe in only part of the Scripture), will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85

"For disbelievers is a painful doom." 2:104

If someone murders your slave, then you get to kill one of his. If it was a male that was killed, you kill one of the killer's male slaves. If a female, you kill a female. Murder for murder. Slave for slave. It all works out swell with Allah's wondrous rules. (Oh, and if you don't follow them, you'll have the usual painful doom.) 2:178

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

Allah says that you must keep fighting until there is no more persecution and everyone on earth is a Muslim. Then you can stop killing people. 2:193a

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

Nothing prevents non-muslims from believing in Islam. So it's their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55

When Abraham's son, Ishmael, was old enough to walk, Allah told Abraham in a dream to sacrifice Ishmael. So Abraham asked Ishmael if it'd be OK with him, and Ishmael said, "Sure thing, Dad, go ahead and kill me for God. I won't even flinch." 37:102 [All three Abrahamic monotheisms share this disgusting celebration of a father intent on murdering his own child to show the love of his god]

Smite the necks of the disbelievers whenever you fight against them. Those who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded. 47:4


I give full credit to the followers of this religion who live in peace and ignore these few (out of hundreds of violent Koranic verses). The fact remains that there is a very large subsect of this religion that espouse violence against those that do not agree with them. Minority or not, their violent beliefs do not conflict with the basis of their texts. In fact they are the true followers of the religion if you chose to objectively analyze their scripture.

Furthermore, I find it impossible for the Koran to be so "mistranslated" that all these verses quoted would be so miscontrued as to miss the mark of violence so many times over.

I feel I have rightfully invoked Ad Hominem, but you are fallacious again in asserting that I use it as a defence in my arguments. Your first response to my post was incoherent blather that did not address my assertion (backed by bodies of evidence) that islam is inherently violent. Instead you accused me of being a latent islamophobe. It would be the same as me simply responding that you are a blatent islamaphile; yet I have chosen to point out the violence in the very text itself.

You also need to explain why in the contemporary world, the only religious group that responds with this level of violence over something that they deem blasphemous are muslims?

When in the past 30 years have the hindus burned embassies and murdered people over blasphemy towards them? The Christians? The Jews? the Jaines? The buddhists? the Shintoists? Etc.

There is a common threadto this religious violence of recent times that I do not think even you could deny deep down.