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Old 09-08-2012, 10:07 PM   #36
Bleeding Red
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Originally Posted by Wormius View Post
That they are arresting, and returning asylum seekers from legitimately dangerous scenarios for one.
Just so I have this straight - Israel is the bad guy and has an awful human rights record for trying to work out their refugee system (clearly there is a bit of debate going on), just like Canada, Australia, and the US (isn't Boarder Patrol a favorite reality show down there?) are trying to work out those systems.

But you have no trouble giving a pass to Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, the PA, etc..those refugees (and not all of them are) are running to Israel for a reason - rule of law, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and (most likely) the #1 economy in the Mid-East.

Israel has it's problems and is not the most sainted country on Earth. Criticizing Israeli government actions/policies, or judicial rulings is not antisemitism. Questioning Israel's right to exist, or exist as a Jewish state is not antisemitism, but is close to Jew hatred. Accusing the world controlling cabal of Zionists of using their influence on the UK or US to get what they want is antisemitism.

Accusing Israel of being one of the worst human rights offenders in the world and of being an apartheid state is either ignorance or the accuser has an axe to grind.

As for Canada's move regarding Iran, there is no point or gain for Canada to close the embassy & expel diplomats just to show support for Israel now.
If you believe that Israel will strike before the US elections, then Israel wants Canada's support after the fact, not a stronger diplomatic stance before hand.
If anything this move may delay any Israel action - Canada can say they are tightening the diplomatic pressure, encourage other countries to follow, and ask Israel to wait and see (not what the hawk-like, war-mongering, blood-lusting Netanyahu government wants, right?).

I think it has more to do with Iran's support of Syria (Baird was just there in a high profile way) and concern that the Canadian embassy is next in line for what happened to the UK embassy in Tehran last year.

The articles I read noted the support of the Iranian Canadian community, and I am sure showing support for Israel is not tops on their list.

(BTW - Jews did not get together in a room in 1946 and flip a coin - heads Uganda, tails Trans-Jordan - and then coerce the UK and US into letting them have their way.

There has been a Jewish Community in Israel & Jerusalem for over 3000 years. Jews have prayed everyday facing Israel & Jerusalem for over 3000 years. Israel has been the Jewish homeland for over 3000 years)
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