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Originally Posted by Tinordi
If the OPs post was to raise awareness about domestic violence against men then he's really gone about it in the wrong way. After reading through his posts it's clear that domestic violence against men is an issue and that we should potentially look into what we can do about it.
What I really take issue with is this dichotomy belittling the violence that women face. You don't need to do that to highlight your own issue and that's why myself and many others got their back up. He painted it as a zero sum issue in that we need to divert money from women's shelters to men's shelters which is just polarizing and completely threw this thread and his issue out of whack.
If anything this is a lesson in framing and delivery and what happens when you do a bad job at it.
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Point out the
belittling. Where is it? Where have I said that women should fend for themselves (a zero sum issue) and men should get everything. I bet you I can point out the misandry and we can compare who is actually zero sum thinking. So you point out the belittling (misogany) and I'll point out the misandry.
I think it clearly states that if half the DV is caused by women then half should go to men to help them. Heck I even said a quarter if you want to use murder as the only sign that help is needed. Not ONCE have I belittled women. It's clearly an issue that men, who get a drill in the face while he sleeps, can't get any help. Instead it will be questioned, what did he do to deserve it? NOBODY DESERVES IT - A woman or man! It's not okay to hit a woman and it's not okay to hit a man.
It's like pulling teeth as you fight what I explain even though it is clearly pointed out to you and guess what. Canada has SIMILAR PERCENTAGE NUMBERS!
http://j.mp/Nmng3u
Rates of spousal violence by a current or previous partner in the 5 year period were 7% for women and 6% for men, representing an estimated 653,000 women and 546,000 men. While there was no statistically significant change in the level of spousal violence against men since 1999 (7% versus 6%), there was a small but statistically significant decline for women during this period (8% versus 7%).
Do you know what the issue is? I brought up an uncomfortable message and that message sucks. Everybody in our society who needs help should get it and it is clear that only one sex is getting that help right now.
$500 million for Womens shelters and 0 for Men's shelters.
I showed a need for them. That is all.
So what should we do? Start a petition to get a few shelters for men? Lets see who uses them when they are properly funded and supported.
If I started a petition would you sign that? Thank this post if you would sign that at least and I'll get on it.