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Old 08-16-2012, 09:17 AM   #161
TheGrimm
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Originally Posted by wittynickname View Post
Here's the thing, if the woman is in a committed relationship, and there is an unwanted pregnancy, I would imagine most women would discuss this with their partner. If the pregnancy comes from a sexual encounter of a casual nature, how often does the guy want to raise that child? Honestly? If he's having casual sex with a girl, he's probably as unlikely to want to raise that child as she is. I just feel like this argument is a very, very rare occurrence used only for the sake of argument. How often is this honestly an issue?
It happens more than you would think, and certainly more than I'd like to see. I agree the ideal situation is to have two committed people talking through the situation, but you and I know the reality of the world is that this often isn't the case. One of my nephews would not be alive today if it weren't for desperate pleading and begging from several family members to keep a child. Shortly after he was born, the mother hit the trail and left the father as the sole guardian. Pretty sure my nephew is happy he had a chance to live.

I may have a bit of a hard line on this one, but I think when you have sex, you need to understand the consequences of that action. Just like getting into a car... If I fall asleep at the wheel and plow into a minivan, am I not responsible for the accident? Can I simply walk away from it and say, well, I certainly didn't want this to happen so I am just going to erase it? I understand that a woman has a right to what goes "inside" her body, but in my opinion, that decision should be made when she decides to have sex, and not after pregnancy.

(I realize my view is simplistic and most situations aren't)

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What possible practical way would there be for a man to have an equal say in this matter? Are you really suggesting that women be forced to carry a pregnancy to term against their will?

Biology dictates that the woman has the final say in this matter and there's really nothing anyone can do about it.
Yea, I actually talked to my wife about this last night, as I was curious what she thought. She brought up this exact point and I hadn't even thought about it

If a woman wants to "miscarry" there are plenty of shady ways to try to accomplish it. Not to mention the fact that she may make terrible choices like drugs and alcohol... You can't simply lock up someone for 9 months.. The fact this could occur saddens me, but it's reality and a woman resenting the fact she is bearing a child is not a good thing. The only thing I would say is that I would hope that negligent behaviour such as this would be criminally punishable... But that doesn't help a child born with fetal alcohol syndrome.
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