Originally Posted by Badger Bob
First of all, anybody who has to resort to name-calling isn't debating in a rational, adult manner. Second of all, this issue is not a right, it's a demand. Unless you can show that sexual proclivities guarantee a litany of new rights under the U.S. Constitution, then you might have a point.
It's just reflective of how the gay movement has shifted its emphasis. Most of the obnoxious young punks screaming "bigot!" only joined this forum after 2010. It's safe to say that they weren't even born during the earlier days when Queer Nation and Act Up called the shots.
Their agenda was so radical that they even ran contrary to the Act Up founder! When AIDS first hit, Larry Kramer, reasonably suggested shutting down the bathhouses. Nope, they weren't goint to stand for it. Then, they demanded (and got!) a "right" that nobody had. Patients with AIDS did not have to be quarantined, in that that tuberculosis patients did. They also had privacy rights that nobody else with certain afflications had in terms of reporting to health departments. That wasn't the end of it. When they learned about AZT, which was an abandoned cancer treatment drug, they thought that it was the new magic elixir. Of course, this drug was toxic as hell, but they even expected it to be federally funded, as if it'd be some cure-all to take after infection.
The religious aspects don't interest me much, but there was also a well-known example of one of those pressure groups staging a sit-in at St. Paul Cathedral in NYC. Seems to me that it was the members of the parish were the ones whose rights were being violated, by the demonstraters interfering with the rights of others to assemble and practice their religion.
We could go on about other examples, but the media and Hollywood strategy has always been to portray gays as innocent victims and anybody who is not completely adoring of them as a "intolerant" or worse.
Before closing, let me share a personal story. Many years ago, a local restaurant hosted a summer picnic at a state park. It was a great event, attended by quite a few friends. The owner of the restaurant also owned other properties. So, his employees were in attendance, including one of the maintenance crew, Tony. My friend, Matt, and I were talking with him and we were even making plans to socialize. Matt wanted a pack of cigarettes. So Tony offered a ride to the convience store, which was only 3 miles away. A LOT of time elapsed. It was getting close to dark and guests were starting to leave the picnic. The bikes weren't locked. So, naturally, we were getting worried. I got both the bikes home and told the others that Matt hadn't returned yet.
Much later, Matt walked home. Turns out that Tony drove them to a secluded area. He put his hand on Matt's lap. Matt said that he wasn't like that, but Tony kept at it. Matt got out of the car. Tony drove back to the park, but sped off after he saw Matt telling some others what had happened. Believe me, a serious beatdown would've ABSOLUTELY been deserved. Of course, you won't read these types of stories in the paper or see a movie with that type of scene. Something tells me that these incidents are not isolated or uncommon either. Anybody could've accepted that this guy was gay, but he pretended otherwise and couldn't accept "no" as answer.
So, forgive me for indifferent to their supposed "rights." Honestly, if this scumbag had found himself a permanent butt buddy, and had their little ceremony it makes no difference to me. I'm just sick of constantly being bombarded with the issues, their victim mentality and their never-ending list of grievances. For those of you in this thread, who are gay. That's fine. Go ahead and be gay. Just don't expect sympathy because your dad didn't accept it or you got made fun of in school.
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