[pepper24]

Originally Posted by Thor

I'm the liberal but I have been for a long time a gun guy, and of course a responsible one.

The US is a unique issue, and I do not for one second think that massive restrictions to guns is going to solve this issue, the violence you are seeing in these kinds of shootings is a symptom of the problem, what that problem is I don't know.

In Iceland and Canada I know tons of gun owners, and almost zero gun violence in comparison to the states. Its something systemic with the US, maybe its the society, maybe its a complex combination of many things, culture of fame at all costs, horrible health care system that lets down mentally ill people, maybe its the fear culture of the media, maybe its the desperation people feel who struggle and fall to the standards of a country built on wealth and material things... Who knows, maybe all of these are dead wrong..

But what I do know, is that you could tomorrow ban all weapons in the US and these issues would still happen.

You're probably right that you'd still see these issues with a gun ban in the US. The difference though is it would make it tougher to access completely unnecessary weapons like assault and automatic weapons. So you'd see similar issues but with tamer guns that would reduce body count. The US 2nd amendment is a complete mess.