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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I would be inclined to buy what you are selling if fat people weren't so common. Gamblers, alcoholics, and drug addict probably do get treated better because they aren't all around you every day like fat people. Like I said before I sympathize with those who have real medical conditions and mental issues but there's no way you will ever convince me otherwise that the majority are simply living a poor lifestyle by choice.
This generation is so coddled honestly what ever happened to manning up and accepting things in your life? I can guarantee that there are few on these boards that had a worse childhood than me. I was beaten with belts, hockey sticks, tennis racquets, suffered a through a horrible, messy, violent parental divorce where the four kids were separated (2 with each parent), etc. and yeah I was a problem teen but in my early 20's I manned up and made a decision to get my life straight and it's been clear sailing ever since. I don't look back at anything and feel sorry for myself or regret anything. I realize that it's not as easy for some people as it is for others to stop feeling sorry for themselves and moving on but I don't buy that most people don't have the mental fortitude to break free of their addictions. It's a matter of really, really wanting it. If you can't stop eating it's likely because deep down inside you don't want to.
Everything is easy now. If you have a condition there is a medication for it and there are hundreds of studies that show what you have is a medical condition that hundreds of other people have. We've really become great at making excuses for everyone's issues like it's supposed to be comforting that the problem you have is common and lots of people have it. It makes it all too easy now to simply accept your problems. Sure lots of people have serotonin imbalances and medication helps but man it's like half the population is on antidepressents. If you are depressed because of your life situation and medication makes you not worry about it the root cause of your issues still exist and you are never going to move past it being artificially blocked from caring about it. We have become great at diagnosing the problems but terrible at coming up with real solutions outside of masking the problems with drugs. A lot of times the answers are within and it's up to the individual to make the hard decisions and sacrifices. Everyone has personal issues and the difference between the weak and the strong is that the strong chooses to be strong and deal with their issues.
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I'm calling bull#### on that one. Sorry to say that, but I'm not sure that you know the reality of psychological problems: it's not just a matter of "dealing with it or being a wuss" as you say. And it seems like your concept of "dealing with it" is just "making the problem disappear", which is not helpful; how do you just make a problem that's been with you for years disappear magically?
That's why a lot of people go to therapy: they just can't figure out how to make the problem disappear, how to think differently, how to ignore the problem or find a key to unlock it and let it go. Sometimes therapy is enough to realize why you were doing something and what it means to you, and how you can change your ways.
But then there's psychological
diseases, which include stuff that have only been diagnosed for a few decades including anorexia, bulimia, and other nasty stuff; in a lot of cases the person just cannot find a way to think differently, to wire his brain in a different way that's not hurting him. Take an example: say you have a good, stable life, eating normally, but you have an eating disorder: how do you avoid feeling guilty about eating anything, every meal, for years? And trust me, you do want to get out of that kind of diseases. For those kind of stuff, if thinking about it doesn't help changing your ways, the therapist gives you pills: that makes you stop worrying about it, and sometimes it's enough for a person to feel like that for a while to be able to reconstruct himself a nice, clean, functional ego. That's how pills work: sometimes all that people need is a break from their psychological #### to be able to let it go. It's not about changing anything in your life or your situation, just being able to build yourself a new way to think about things and embrace it; it's not about courage or "manning up", it's about discovering how to change.
And yeah, there's a ton of diagnoses more than a hundred years ago; that's not people being wusses, that's psychology advancing and figuring out stuff what people do that are hurting them. People are actually suffering psychologically; nobody lowered the threshold of pain needed to go see a doctor about it, it's just that before people suffered in silence. There's also the fact that our society's worries are much different than a hundred years ago: no food scarcity, no war, no dictatorship, everything changing at an incredibly fast pace, a society more focused on the individuals' social role and the fear of being left out. So you get a ton of psychological diseases that make people genuinely suffer that you've never heard of before (for instance, porn addiction, which is a real thing recognized more and more by psychologists, that can cause depression and erectile dysfunction).
Please don't assume that people are weaker than they used to be, and don't assume you can magically "man up" out of stuff that real doctors say you need antidepressants to overcome.