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troutman · 06-18-2012, 10:31 AM

[under construction - my thoughts after discussing movie with Aeneas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

Prometheus (Greek: Προμηθεύς) is a Titan, culture hero, and trickster figure who in Greek mythology is credited with the creation of man from clay and the theft of fire for human use, an act that enabled progress and civilization. He is known for his intelligence, and as a champion of mankind.[1]

In the Western classical tradition, Prometheus became a figure who represented human striving, particularly the quest for scientific knowledge, and the risk of overreaching or unintended consequences.

Clearly, the name of the vessel is significant, and provides clues to the themes in the movies (creation, intelligence, science, overreaching).

I think "David" has many things in common with HAL 900 in 2001 (did you know HAL are the letters before IBM in the alphabet?). Like HAL, David raises questions about what it means to be intelligent. Can a computer/robot have a soul? I don't think HAL is a true villian, and neither is David, They are both bound to the prime directive of the mission - in David's case that is seeking a path to immortality for Peter Weyland (David is immortal, unlike his creators). It is odd that he calls Vickers "mom". Peter Weyland looks very much like the elderly David Bowman in 2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000

Chariots Of The Gods is a ridiculous book from 1968 that theorized ancient human cultures were visited and influenced by alien astronauts. Shaw and Holloway theorize cultures around the world were visited by aliens, and that a common calling-card (Invitation) was left at many sites. It seems visitations happened from 35,000 years ago (Scotland) to as recent as 1000 years ago (Mayans). I thought I heard them say the destination was in another galaxy, but that does not make sense - how could they identify the right solar system from that distance (or travel there in 2 years)? I would think that the discoveries of Shaw and Holloway would be a huge international event, so it is odd to me that the mission would be under-taken by a private enterprise (with a secret agenda). We have seen calling-cards/invitations before in 2001 (Monoliths) and Contact (the radio signals).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_gods

I think it is relevant that Prometheus (the vessel) reaches the planet on Christmas Day. Shaw and David depart on New Years Day.

Raise your hands if you were hoping Shaw and Vickers were going to live in the life boat for 2 years, in Sapphic paradise.

When David examined the goo between his fingers, it certainly looked like the dripping maw of the Alien monsters to come in the original movies.

06-18-2012, 10:31 AM	#222
troutman Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Crowsnest Pass Exp:	[under construction - my thoughts after discussing movie with Aeneas] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus Prometheus (Greek: Προμηθεύς) is a Titan, culture hero, and trickster figure who in Greek mythology is credited with the creation of man from clay and the theft of fire for human use, an act that enabled progress and civilization. He is known for his intelligence, and as a champion of mankind.[1] In the Western classical tradition, Prometheus became a figure who represented human striving, particularly the quest for scientific knowledge, and the risk of overreaching or unintended consequences. Clearly, the name of the vessel is significant, and provides clues to the themes in the movies (creation, intelligence, science, overreaching). I think "David" has many things in common with HAL 900 in 2001 (did you know HAL are the letters before IBM in the alphabet?). Like HAL, David raises questions about what it means to be intelligent. Can a computer/robot have a soul? I don't think HAL is a true villian, and neither is David, They are both bound to the prime directive of the mission - in David's case that is seeking a path to immortality for Peter Weyland (David is immortal, unlike his creators). It is odd that he calls Vickers "mom". Peter Weyland looks very much like the elderly David Bowman in 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000 Chariots Of The Gods is a ridiculous book from 1968 that theorized ancient human cultures were visited and influenced by alien astronauts. Shaw and Holloway theorize cultures around the world were visited by aliens, and that a common calling-card (Invitation) was left at many sites. It seems visitations happened from 35,000 years ago (Scotland) to as recent as 1000 years ago (Mayans). I thought I heard them say the destination was in another galaxy, but that does not make sense - how could they identify the right solar system from that distance (or travel there in 2 years)? I would think that the discoveries of Shaw and Holloway would be a huge international event, so it is odd to me that the mission would be under-taken by a private enterprise (with a secret agenda). We have seen calling-cards/invitations before in 2001 (Monoliths) and Contact (the radio signals). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_gods I think it is relevant that Prometheus (the vessel) reaches the planet on Christmas Day. Shaw and David depart on New Years Day. Raise your hands if you were hoping Shaw and Vickers were going to live in the life boat for 2 years, in Sapphic paradise. When David examined the goo between his fingers, it certainly looked like the dripping maw of the Alien monsters to come in the original movies. Last edited by troutman; 06-18-2012 at 10:56 AM.