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Old 06-14-2012, 01:48 PM   #33
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I am trying to be honest with you, as I am privy to alot of conversations in large Oil and Gas around outsourcing. As smart as Programmers and Infastructure guys are (and I know plenty), they are seen as a commodity (exception being the very specilized). Therefore, along comes a large outfit like IBM or CGI tells them they will outsource the whole shop for half the long them cost. Suddenly that sweet job you had before, and all those certs, becomes a low pay IBM gig.

This is the way it is headed in Calgary, so don't invest at this time unless you plan to get out of the "do'er" roles and into the "planner/seller" roles in IT. Most "do'er" roles are going to go to a large consulting outfit (who will pay you nothing) or to India long term.
I've always found this attitude facinating - and largely backwards.

Technical talent is rare and hard to find, yet in calgary if you're not directly involved in the "management" of pulling oil out of hte ground you're second class. One day this thinking will bite the local business culture in the rear end.

Manager types have been brainwashed into the concept of "cost centers" by outdated management theories - so in order for us technical folk to prosper, we need to constantly justify our value to them. I skipped this step and joined a local tech startup - far better work environment then anything O&G could provide and I get respect for my skills. I have no idea why anyone would want to work for a large company's IT when you know it's run my moronic managers who don't understand any of what IT does.

That said, OldDutch's advice is dead on if you want to climb the corporate ladder in IT.
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