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Flashpoint · 03-07-2006, 04:29 PM

I wholeheartedly support abortions. I think they should have extended late term abortions. Like abortions in the 1000th week for those carrying Oiler fans.

In all seriousness, the issue is pretty clear to me. Abortion bans are bad for society. There are more children than there are parents. Unwanted children will grow up with a greater propensity towards crime. Abstinence programs don't work. Young adults are not known for their self control. When young girls have children, it usually destroys 2 or 3 lives. Hell, considering what college and university is like these days (if you've been, you know what I am talking about), the term "young girl in trouble", can equally apply to some people in 3rd year.

I love stories of 12 and 13 year old girls "sticking it out" and raising "wonderful families". Usually anecdotal, and lacking in concrete evidence, I typically respond by wondering what would have happened if the child had not been burdened with raising a family when they themselves were merely a child. Perhaps they would have done great things. Perhaps we would have a cure for aids by now.

Freakanomics had a fantastic section on the correlation between the drop in violent crime, and the Roe vs Wade decision.

Is it wrong to take a human life? Absolutely not. We do it all the time. It is an unfortunate and inevitable outcome of our western society. If you own an SUV and are gassing it up you are doing it. If you shop at Walmart, you are doing it. You think those prices are low because executives are taking a pay cut? Try Chinese slave labour. Worried about oil prices? Imagine if the US hadn't invaded 2 countries.

It is ok to kill innocents to fight "terror"? Bombs miss their targets all the time. But it is not ok to kill an innocent to allow 2 people to stay in college and finish their degrees? Or to prevent an unwanted child from entering the world, taxing our social programs, and possibly winding up being a violent criminal? Again, not that all unwanted kids end up this way, just a greater number than normal?

With the developments surrounding the morning after pill (pretty soon we will probably have the "week after pill", "month after pill", etc), this debate is probably on the cusp of losing steam anyway.

Knowledge is power. Power is choice.
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03-07-2006, 04:29 PM	#79
Flashpoint Not the 1 millionth post winnar Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Exp:	I wholeheartedly support abortions. I think they should have extended late term abortions. Like abortions in the 1000th week for those carrying Oiler fans. In all seriousness, the issue is pretty clear to me. Abortion bans are bad for society. There are more children than there are parents. Unwanted children will grow up with a greater propensity towards crime. Abstinence programs don't work. Young adults are not known for their self control. When young girls have children, it usually destroys 2 or 3 lives. Hell, considering what college and university is like these days (if you've been, you know what I am talking about), the term "young girl in trouble", can equally apply to some people in 3rd year. I love stories of 12 and 13 year old girls "sticking it out" and raising "wonderful families". Usually anecdotal, and lacking in concrete evidence, I typically respond by wondering what would have happened if the child had not been burdened with raising a family when they themselves were merely a child. Perhaps they would have done great things. Perhaps we would have a cure for aids by now. Freakanomics had a fantastic section on the correlation between the drop in violent crime, and the Roe vs Wade decision. Is it wrong to take a human life? Absolutely not. We do it all the time. It is an unfortunate and inevitable outcome of our western society. If you own an SUV and are gassing it up you are doing it. If you shop at Walmart, you are doing it. You think those prices are low because executives are taking a pay cut? Try Chinese slave labour. Worried about oil prices? Imagine if the US hadn't invaded 2 countries. It is ok to kill innocents to fight "terror"? Bombs miss their targets all the time. But it is not ok to kill an innocent to allow 2 people to stay in college and finish their degrees? Or to prevent an unwanted child from entering the world, taxing our social programs, and possibly winding up being a violent criminal? Again, not that all unwanted kids end up this way, just a greater number than normal? With the developments surrounding the morning after pill (pretty soon we will probably have the "week after pill", "month after pill", etc), this debate is probably on the cusp of losing steam anyway. Knowledge is power. Power is choice. __________________ __________________ "Isles give up 3 picks for 5.5 mil of cap space. Oilers give up a pick and a player to take on 5.5 mil." -Bax Last edited by Flashpoint; 03-07-2006 at 04:32 PM.