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Old 05-16-2012, 03:44 PM   #100
Slava
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
You should try to not come across as being completely ridiculous. Yes we know people abuse the system all the time. People commit credit card fraud too. Point is that credit card companies are actively trying to stop that fraud, and despite that, close to $50 billion is 'lost' every year due to credit card fraud. And no matter what credit card companies do, people will still commit fraud. Yet, it is still in their best interest to stop the fraud. Likewise it is the governments job to actively make sure people don't abuse the system so that it stays stable for those of us who will need it.

Saying they shouldn't try to keep people from abusing the refugee program because no matter what you will do, the abuse will still happen is completely ridiculous. It is the governments job to make sure that taxpayer money is being spent efficiently and effectively. I don't care if its $20 million or $20 billion.

This whole thread starting with the title is full of over-reactions by people who didn't even bother to read the actual articles.

Which seems to be pretty typical these days going by the 'no bad jobs' thread, and this one as well.
Actually I've read the article here and I've read other articles on the same topic. Thanks for making sure that I did my homework though!

Obviously I don't think that they should let abuse run rampant; who really thinks that they should? Everyone on every issue thinks that public money should be spent efficiently and properly as well, so I have no idea what you're getting at there. Has anyone ever argued otherwise?

You're basically grasping at straws now. The fiscal side and the whole "we can save $20M a year" has been shown to be virtually meaningless, so now its the "there are cheaters we plan on catching" argument. Is there any data that suggests a huge amount of people are filing refugee claims to get healthcare? Can we see something tangible that shows that Canadians are on the receiving end of consistent fraudulent behavior of this sort?

I'm sure that there is some fraud. Trying to eliminate it by cutting the program is throwing the baby out with the bathwater though. Sorry if that is "ridiculous" to you, but its the epitome of basing the system around those who try to cheat it.
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