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Old 03-05-2006, 10:33 PM   #38
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Good point on Davis. That was the homer Bronco fan in me talking I guess. Still maintain that he was better than Portis was/is though. The homer Bronco fan has no part in the comments below however...

I don't like the Brady/Montana comparison though. Brady, despite what some Pats fans might say, hasn't had near the talent around him that Montana did. I think Brady is underrated if anything. I think Montana is severely overrated as a passer. As a QB/leader, he's not.

Getting back to Favre and Elway, I'm not sure if you were lumping Elway in with Favre on your 10% chance of success thing, but if you were, you must also realize that no Qb in NFL history has won more games than John Elway. Much of his career he had nothing around him. It was only in the last 4 years or so that he actually had some talent on offense. He single handedly got them to the Super Bowl 3 times (with the help of an undersized but gritty defense). I can tell you for a fact had he not had the balls to make some of the throws he did (i.e. make the smart play instead) in the championship games against Cleveland (both of them) the Browns would've been in the Super Bowl twice. Elway made throws no other QB could make and he did it in less than ideal conditions.

Personally, I think Favre is a step below Elway in talent, but he has won a hell of a lot of games and he's never had a great supporting cast on offense.

You can't penalize guys like Montana and Aikman for what they had around them, but Elway and Favre both proved to be exceptional QB's by winning without that talent.
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