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Old 05-10-2012, 02:12 PM   #358
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Thank you for your response. Pretty interesting to see someone who really does have both points of view. Personally i was raised Catholic, but stopped going to church when I was around 16 (around the time of my parents divorce) because I came to the realization that I didn't know how the universe started or what will happen when I die and I am completely OK with not knowing. I live my life for myself and for those that I care about and who care about me. I realize that I'm arguing with "past-you" but I thought I'd respond to a few points...

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Fundy-Text: It would not be a disagreement with me, but with God. Disagreeing with God is dangerous, and I see it as my responsibility as someone who knows the truth to ensure that everyone else knows it.
I understand the idea that they want to "save" non-believers, but why can't they just let it go? If someone wants to burn in hell for being gay, why is it their problem?

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Fundy-Text: Better for everyone. History shows that social health is absolutely dependent upon the strength of family, and once that is diminished, it always leads to social decay. Take the Roman Empire as an example for how sexual and moral degradation resulted in its weakness and destruction. Homosexuality is bad for society.
Homosexuality is bad for their idea of what society should be. The notion that homosexuality is a cause of diminished family strength I think has shown to be false simply by looking at the divorce rate amongst heterosexual couples. And also at the fact that the rate of divorce increases with every previous marriage.

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Fundy-Text: It is a war, and if we concede on this point, it would be like laying down our arms and surrendering to the enemy on the front line of the battlefield. What we are trying to do is two things: First, to show our solidarity with God—we want to be on the winning side in the end. Second, to prevent the continuing and rapid moral and social decay, which is but a symptom of a much greater, much more pernicious and insidious form of evil. Ultimately, this is about combatting and defeating evil.
A war on what? Semantics? What the definition of marriage is? It's just a word. Language evolves. If the concern is that gay marriage doesnt chime with Webster's definition is it really worth all this fighting? Does it invalidate your marriage if gay people can do it too?
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