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Old 05-03-2012, 12:04 PM   #361
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I don't think you're fully assimilating my argument that God could just be a liar. You are making a logical leap from "The Bible cannot be true" to "The God of the Bible cannot exist". Your error is between steps 3 and 4 - there is nothing stopping God from divinely revealing falsehoods and contradictions. Therefore, the Bible could be false while the God of the bible be true.
Oh, I get your argument, but it's only proving my point.


It comes down to definition. As defined by the Bible, that God cannot exist because its very nature as defined is in direct conflict with itself. If you are saying "Well, what if God lied?" then that's no obstacle at all.
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Further, if your conclusion is that the bible isn't evidence of anything, that applies both for and against: you can't say "the Bible proves God *doesn't* exist". By saying the God of the Bible (and not the Bible itself) is "demonstrably false", that is exactly what you are doing.
Once again, the Bible proposes a god that cannot exist because of the very qualities is suggests it has. If a god did divinely inspire the Bible, the god of which the the Bible defines is not that god.

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All you can really say is that the Bible cannot be literally true at all points, and that it is open to just about any interpretation of its supposed author.
Therein lies the problem - a book that endorses all viewpoints ultimately endorses none.
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Typical dumb take.
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