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Originally Posted by Vulcan
Yes, the best you can do is say that I am certain which is second hand but if I could say, show you what I experience than you would also know and thus be a gnostic theist. I dislike these labels though as they are something made up by our minds and is not the way I understand this god, energy, etc. or as the Jews say about the name of YHWH, the unspeakable, and yes the debate is impossible which may make some uneasy but I don't want to do that. What I practise is very peaceful.
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Fair enough, although I reject the idea that debate is impossible; people can choose not to accept the terms of debate. I think it's safe to say that the graph was made by agnostics, as it'll always make perfect sense to an agnostic who refuses to address questions of right or wrong in this regard. It tries to be impartial, but it asks others to leave behind questions of right or wrong when looking at the graph.
It wouldn't satisfy gnostics from either side who see the positions as knowledge, true belief, false belief, and false certainty. For such a person, impartiality would be pointless because they feel their position of knowledge is superior to all other positions. I'd expect that as an agnostic atheist, I'd be described as having a true belief by a gnostic atheist, and as having a false belief by a gnostic theist.