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Old 04-23-2012, 04:36 PM   #38
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This is one of the major tenants of modern Atheism. But it doesn't make someone Atheist. Small-A atheism may have meant that at one time, but Atheism now is more than just that.
Where are the tenants for "Modern Atheism"?

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For example, Buddhists in many of their forms, also do not believe in one or more gods. Yet they are Buddhists, not Atheists.
They lack belief in god/s, they are, by definition, atheists. Though I think I've heard some use the word non-theist rather than atheist because the whole question of god/s is irrelevant to Buddhism.

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Most Atheists and Buddhists would bristle at the idea that they are the same, or even similar. They are not. Therefore your statement is false, even if as one of the major tenants of Atheism you are required to defend it vigorously.
I don't bristle at the idea that two groups of people that are very different can happen to share a common lack of belief.

Conservatives and Liberals both lack belief in Santa, but I don't think either will bristle that they share a common lack of belief.

Athesism and Buddhism share one common thing, but that's not saying they're the same or similar.

And again, where's this tenant and where am I required to do anything? What happens if I don't defend this tenant?

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But I know you disagree. It's part of your belief system.
It's part of your belief system to say atheism is a religion despite it not being one, I know you disagree, it's part of your belief system.

(Hint, atheism isn't a belief system. Secular Humanism is a belief system.)

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And I know that many of you will be offended by this as well, because that is a part of your belief system too.
Telling other people what their belief system is doesn't do much other than setup a convenient straw man to argue against.

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But if it is part of your belief system, then those beliefs are protected by Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms. I don't understand why you wouldn't want that.
What do you mean you don't understand why I wouldn't want that?

I want my beliefs protected by the charter therefore Atheism is a religion? That's fallacious reasoning (appeal to consequences).
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